Should you change the way you create content based on the persona or ICP you're going after? And if so, how should it change? Obaid discusses that
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Unless someone's actively looking for that thing right now,
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you're not gonna give a shit about purely product based content.
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You're gonna tune it out.
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But if you make it conceptual, make it a little fun,
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then more people care about it,
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not necessarily just the ones that are in market right now for your shit.
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Do you remember zombies?
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>> No, what the hell is this?
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>> Like zombies come out of these holes and then you just, what game is this?
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Call of Duty?
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>> I don't know.
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>> One question we got is how do I tailor my content if my ICP is enterprise B2
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B sex?
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What are your thoughts on that?
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>> So I guess one of my first thoughts on it is are they trying to create,
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is this coming from a marketer, like in terms of- >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Marketer, content creator, even a salesperson.
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If there's someone like you that they're in sales but they create content and
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stuff.
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>> Yeah, cuz I think about it, so
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I'm gonna, my answers will be more from the sales perspective.
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Cuz I've obviously never been in a marketing content specific role.
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But I get that question a lot in sales where it's like, my ICP is enterprise.
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It's much higher up executives, they're not consuming content like that.
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They're not compared to like S&B maybe where it's a little bit easier.
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But I think for me it still comes down to or like when I created content where
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my ICP is enterprise.
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Like breaking down if you're a rep, the conversations you're having in sales
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calls.
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And the common problems you hear from them and just sharing those stories.
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Again, this is coming from a sales perspective.
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Like after every single sales call, what I used to do is just break down what
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were
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the common problems with things that came up or interesting conversations.
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And then just start kind of sharing those, like let's say through LinkedIn or
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create videos around it.
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Cuz it's a really easy way to create content, you always have ideas.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't know, I mean, I don't know if it directly relates to enterprise.
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But I think it's, it's kind of like it's applicable to enterprise, right?
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Like, yeah, I guess the ultimate thing is that from the sales perspective,
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it's not that big of a difference, right?
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Like, if they're active on the platforms, we're even pretty confident.
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>> Exactly, yeah.
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I don't know, I mean, which I feel like my answer is pretty much kind of the
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same.
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Like, I think the only difference it makes with like an enterprise client and
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like a smaller SMB client is there's just a lot more stuff in the sales cycle.
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There's legal, there's security compliance, there's this, there's that,
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there's a lot of red tape, got to get stuff signed off by the finance
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department.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So it's just things like that when it comes to enterprise that are different
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When it comes to content consumption and marketing to them, it's really,
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like again, we say this all the time, like,
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B2B still marketing to people.
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But it's like, it's all it is, dude, like that 45 year old CMOCFO,
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like he or she likes to laugh at stuff too.
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Like, it's not any different.
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I think, like if you look at like easy mode,
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I do a podcast and like I curse like a sailor, you know what I mean?
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And you would think like if you're targeting B2B, SaaS, enterprise,
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you should be very professional, not cursed.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But you would be so surprised how many like CMOs I run into,
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that they're like, hey, I listen to your podcast every day on my daily commute
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to work.
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And even it blows me away because I'm like, damn,
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I cuss a lot on there.
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Like, I think listen to this.
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And when I ask them about it, they're like, yeah, dude,
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it sounds like I'm just talking to a friend who just so happens to be talking
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about marketing.
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You are, you're always going to need a blend of stuff,
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but you can't just make strictly entertaining content.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And expect that the drive stuff, like the insightful shit has to be there.
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I think with enterprise, you just need to make sure that you're really doing
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that.
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Like, they're going to consume like the shows and the series and entertaining
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content and stuff.
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But it's just going to be straightforward.
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>> Yeah.
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Like things like white papers and stuff, they still have their place in
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learning.
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>> Yeah.
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>> A lot of times, depending on the nature of what you're trying to learn,
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you may want to watch someone explain it to you or you may want to read about
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it in depth.
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So I think with enterprise, it's just you got to make sure you're kind of just
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taking all these boxes.
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You can't just do one or the other thing.
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You can't just do like only old school content or like only new school content.
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Like it has to be everything.
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The only thing I love to do with these guys, you probably know it too.
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Just run around in a big circle and then just get them all in a straight line.
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And then kind of just line them up and then aim at their heads.
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>> Yeah, I was getting cooked.
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>> I'm out of ammo crap.
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Also, you have like one special weapon.
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If you press these two buttons together, I'm just going to drop like this bomb
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thing on the ground that like,
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see like this.
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>> Oh, shoot.
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>> And when you get them all like gathered up, that's like really effective.
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>> Oh, God.
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>> That's good to know.
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>> What are you guys doing with the, what's the plan with all the self-better
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stuff?
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What are you all doing?
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>> Yeah, so we run a daily sales show.
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So like every weekday to the last two or three years.
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Or I guess two years now.
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>> Wow.
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>> We've been running, yeah, every weekday.
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And so we did a couple of live shows in studio.
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>> I think we hit like a registration record.
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Oh, I'm dead.
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>> Oh, I'm dead.
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>> Oh, damn.
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You actually got away.
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Holy shit.
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Holy shit.
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>> I'm cooked.
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I'm fucked.
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>> Manship.
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>> I'm dead.
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>> Wanna run it back?
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>> Yeah, I was run about.
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>> Let's do it.
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