Have you noticed that you now have games popping up in your LinkedIn feed? Mike and Anthony have a little fun weighing in and how LinkedIn should be using the data from gaming activity to enhance the LinkedIn experience.
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Did you see on LinkedIn, a little thing that was popping up,
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is to stay in touch through daily games.
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Prep your mind for the work day and compare your results.
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And there's a whole scrolling thing of games,
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pinpoint, cross climb, queens.
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Have you seen this?
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- We've waited months and years for LinkedIn
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to launch a new feature.
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Product teams, hard at work, feature less long,
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and they come back with a wordle.
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Unbelievable.
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- I haven't played one yet.
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- I've not played one, not yet.
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- I do understand why.
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- Well, they're trying to just keep people on the site
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as long as they possibly can.
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- I think that's the name of the game with these things, right?
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With these social networks.
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- The reason I haven't played one yet,
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because it probably takes like 10 seconds to play.
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So I'm like, "Oh, maybe I'll click one and see what happens."
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Is I know for a fact, if I click that on pinpoint
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and I start guessing the categories,
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it's going to publish my results to my LinkedIn feed
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without me asking it to.
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I just know that's what's gonna happen.
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And I don't wanna be like the boomer on LinkedIn
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who's like, "Check out my pinpoint score."
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I guess the category. - It's 3PM on a Tuesday.
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The world knows Mike's playing pinpoint.
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- Yeah, it can't be me.
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So I'm just like, I don't trust LinkedIn
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to even like, they're already doing like a growth hack
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with this to keep me on the fricking page.
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I know they're gonna monetize my content without me asking
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and just go throw it on there and try to get other people
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to go play the game.
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Like, no way, no way.
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I'd have to check all my privacy settings
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before I was gonna click on cross climb.
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Not doing it. - You have like a,
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you create like a burner account just so you can play.
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- Yeah, that's a good point.
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- That was just my LinkedIn game, my game persona.
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- Yeah.
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- I didn't read much into this, but I can only assume
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this is their way again of keeping engagement on the platform,
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serving you more ads as a result,
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monetizing on the back end.
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It just feels like I have not seen like a legitimate new feature
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come out of such, this is like in a way
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if LinkedIn had more of a consumer appeal,
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there would be the same noise in the public square
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as the Twitter kind of issues that have all happened.
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Like, again, say what you will about Elon,
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say what you will about all of them,
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but, or that whole thing.
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But the amount of net new capabilities
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that have come out on X with a much smaller team
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is profound, LinkedIn is the same.
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I haven't, LinkedIn, the UI looks the same as 2002, I think.
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I haven't seen a new feature,
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and yet there is a clamoring from at least the marketers
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that we follow and talk to for new capabilities.
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And they give us games.
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And they give us games.
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You know, if they were gonna,
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if they, what they should do is they should like,
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add some teeth to this.
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Like, when you're doing the categorization of things,
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it should be like companies and their job postings,
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and you can like give feedback to them
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by like ranking the companies against each other,
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or something that like ties in to,
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oh, this is a good one.
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You should make people play a game
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to like demonstrate their competency
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before they click like the one,
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the button LinkedIn to apply button for your job.
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So then what goes to your ATS, the resume comes,
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it also comes with their cross-climbed score.
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(laughing)
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Then you know, then you know how they scored
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in like the sports trivia category,
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or whatever the hell you choose.
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I just don't, I don't see what the tie in it
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to the reason that people are on LinkedIn to the games, right?
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Like, like there are certainly places on the internet
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where people go to waste time,
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and to just entertain themselves,
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and to mindlessly scroll,
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and just, you know, tune out for a second.
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- Yeah.
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- That exists.
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I don't think that that's why people go to LinkedIn.
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I think people go to LinkedIn to find work
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to professionally network.
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I think they go there to promote business-related content,
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they go there to sell.
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But I don't think that people are going to,
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like that's not the job they're hiring LinkedIn to do.
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So pushing games out just feels like they're trying to get people
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to hire them for a job that isn't what anyone wants.
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It's like, that doesn't feel very aligned to like the service
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that they actually provide to the professional community.
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So for me, it feels like a gimmick,
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like a growth hack type thing.
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But I don't know.
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I'll never say never.
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Maybe you'll see me at the top of the pinpoint leaderboard,
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sometimes who knows?
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- Who knows?
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- I can't wait.
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- I don't know.
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- I don't know.
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- That'll be in a little circle thing,
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the band that we put out in your face.
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- Mine'll be like--
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- That's what they're going to do.
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- Number one pinpoint champion of the Western region.
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- That's what they're going to do.
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You're going to need a badge for every, like, you know,
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they're going to gamify your cross-climbed skills.
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You know, the other thing that I see a lot of people doing,
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or the contra example, is this,
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like the rise of the LinkedIn creator a little bit.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- Where, you know, if LinkedIn games is to like
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the New York Times, Wertle, like, whatever,
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then there's also this copycat thing happening
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with LinkedIn video.
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I'm not sure if your mobile app has this,
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but there's a new, like, basically reels,
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or TikTok-like experience where you're actually--
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- Oh, really?
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- Yeah, I think it's in beta.
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I think they're still rolling it out.
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Feature number two in the last 20 years.
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But it's basically, I think, indicative of their strategy
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to try, I think, to keep you on platform,
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and make it that space, that tab that's always open.
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And we, you know, I'm skeptical of some of the stuff.
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But I will say, we see a direct correlation
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between how often I post from my personal account
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with our demo request form on our website.
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And like, we're doing the "How did you hear about us?"
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And we're a small company, so I think, like,
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in general, the, you know, law of small numbers,
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type of a thing.
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But we repeatedly hear, and the "How did you hear
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"about a section that I found you on LinkedIn?"
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So that became like a drug, in a way,
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I'm like, I gotta post every day.
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And some days, you're like,
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I got something meaningful to say.
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Other days, you're like, I have to post.
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I have to say something here.
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And so it's really interesting just to see
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how the creator trend in the B2B context
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is happening on LinkedIn,
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and how that other job that they're being hired for,
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or LinkedIn's being hired for,
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is almost pulling them in the TikTok direction
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a little bit as well.
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- Yeah, I totally agree with that,
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but one thing that they haven't gotten right,
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in my opinion, is like, the TikTok algorithm is like so good.
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It does the perfect balance of like,
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what you care about, plus discovery.
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And what I can say, LinkedIn isn't doing good.
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And I'm sure everyone is listening
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and probably attest to this.
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Like, once you get into like a couple of the create,
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people who are posting a lot, the creators on LinkedIn,
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once you get into a couple of their funnels,
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it's like, the feed is just like,
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those people over and over and over and over again.
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And it starts to kind of feel like,
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even more monotonous than it was before that even existed,
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right?
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Like they're not, I don't think they're doing
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a really great job.
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If they want me to like, use my LinkedIn feed
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the same way I use like, my Instagram feed,
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or my TikTok feed,
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they're gonna need to do a way better job of discovery.
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And right now it's like, you know,
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I feel like, you know, it's like, you know,
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and no offense to these folks, they're great,
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but it's like, you know, see like, Dave and Morgan,
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and you know, like, it's like the same ones over
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and over and over again, they have great things to say,
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but I'm like, every time I go,
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it's like, Chris is in there, like, you know,
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just like the same people.
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And maybe that's just a matter of like,
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who I'm connected with.
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But I feel like they're missing a huge opportunity
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to help me discover new people.
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Maybe I don't know, or new creators
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to have something to say on the feed.
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So they have some work to do in my opinion
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on the algorithm.
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- I think the reason for it is it's a social graph
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where TikTok is an interest graph.
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And that I think can be the real unlock.
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Like if you were really, if you were at LinkedIn
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and really want to take this seriously,
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I think you would solve the problem that you just referenced.
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- Maybe that's the reason for the games.
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They're like, who wants pinpoint?
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Who's interested in cross-climme?
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That's what they're gonna start their interest graph on.
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We solve it. - On the on, yeah.
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I think so.
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