Backchannel 9 min

Is LinkedIn the Next Big Gaming Platform?


Have you noticed that you now have games popping up in your LinkedIn feed? Mike and Anthony have a little fun weighing in and how LinkedIn should be using the data from gaming activity to enhance the LinkedIn experience.



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Did you see on LinkedIn, a little thing that was popping up,

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is to stay in touch through daily games.

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Prep your mind for the work day and compare your results.

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And there's a whole scrolling thing of games,

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pinpoint, cross climb, queens.

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Have you seen this?

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- We've waited months and years for LinkedIn

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to launch a new feature.

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Product teams, hard at work, feature less long,

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and they come back with a wordle.

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Unbelievable.

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- I haven't played one yet.

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- I've not played one, not yet.

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- I do understand why.

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- Well, they're trying to just keep people on the site

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as long as they possibly can.

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- I think that's the name of the game with these things, right?

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With these social networks.

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- The reason I haven't played one yet,

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because it probably takes like 10 seconds to play.

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So I'm like, "Oh, maybe I'll click one and see what happens."

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Is I know for a fact, if I click that on pinpoint

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and I start guessing the categories,

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it's going to publish my results to my LinkedIn feed

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without me asking it to.

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I just know that's what's gonna happen.

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And I don't wanna be like the boomer on LinkedIn

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who's like, "Check out my pinpoint score."

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I guess the category. - It's 3PM on a Tuesday.

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The world knows Mike's playing pinpoint.

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- Yeah, it can't be me.

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So I'm just like, I don't trust LinkedIn

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to even like, they're already doing like a growth hack

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with this to keep me on the fricking page.

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I know they're gonna monetize my content without me asking

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and just go throw it on there and try to get other people

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to go play the game.

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Like, no way, no way.

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I'd have to check all my privacy settings

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before I was gonna click on cross climb.

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Not doing it. - You have like a,

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you create like a burner account just so you can play.

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- Yeah, that's a good point.

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- That was just my LinkedIn game, my game persona.

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- Yeah.

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- I didn't read much into this, but I can only assume

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this is their way again of keeping engagement on the platform,

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serving you more ads as a result,

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monetizing on the back end.

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It just feels like I have not seen like a legitimate new feature

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come out of such, this is like in a way

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if LinkedIn had more of a consumer appeal,

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there would be the same noise in the public square

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as the Twitter kind of issues that have all happened.

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Like, again, say what you will about Elon,

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say what you will about all of them,

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but, or that whole thing.

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But the amount of net new capabilities

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that have come out on X with a much smaller team

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is profound, LinkedIn is the same.

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I haven't, LinkedIn, the UI looks the same as 2002, I think.

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I haven't seen a new feature,

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and yet there is a clamoring from at least the marketers

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that we follow and talk to for new capabilities.

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And they give us games.

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And they give us games.

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You know, if they were gonna,

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if they, what they should do is they should like,

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add some teeth to this.

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Like, when you're doing the categorization of things,

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it should be like companies and their job postings,

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and you can like give feedback to them

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by like ranking the companies against each other,

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or something that like ties in to,

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oh, this is a good one.

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You should make people play a game

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to like demonstrate their competency

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before they click like the one,

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the button LinkedIn to apply button for your job.

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So then what goes to your ATS, the resume comes,

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it also comes with their cross-climbed score.

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(laughing)

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Then you know, then you know how they scored

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in like the sports trivia category,

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or whatever the hell you choose.

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I just don't, I don't see what the tie in it

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to the reason that people are on LinkedIn to the games, right?

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Like, like there are certainly places on the internet

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where people go to waste time,

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and to just entertain themselves,

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and to mindlessly scroll,

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and just, you know, tune out for a second.

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- Yeah.

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- That exists.

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I don't think that that's why people go to LinkedIn.

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I think people go to LinkedIn to find work

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to professionally network.

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I think they go there to promote business-related content,

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they go there to sell.

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But I don't think that people are going to,

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like that's not the job they're hiring LinkedIn to do.

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So pushing games out just feels like they're trying to get people

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to hire them for a job that isn't what anyone wants.

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It's like, that doesn't feel very aligned to like the service

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that they actually provide to the professional community.

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So for me, it feels like a gimmick,

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like a growth hack type thing.

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But I don't know.

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I'll never say never.

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Maybe you'll see me at the top of the pinpoint leaderboard,

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sometimes who knows?

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- Who knows?

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- I can't wait.

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- I don't know.

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- I don't know.

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- That'll be in a little circle thing,

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the band that we put out in your face.

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- Mine'll be like--

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- That's what they're going to do.

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- Number one pinpoint champion of the Western region.

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- That's what they're going to do.

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You're going to need a badge for every, like, you know,

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they're going to gamify your cross-climbed skills.

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You know, the other thing that I see a lot of people doing,

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or the contra example, is this,

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like the rise of the LinkedIn creator a little bit.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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- Where, you know, if LinkedIn games is to like

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the New York Times, Wertle, like, whatever,

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then there's also this copycat thing happening

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with LinkedIn video.

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I'm not sure if your mobile app has this,

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but there's a new, like, basically reels,

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or TikTok-like experience where you're actually--

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- Oh, really?

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- Yeah, I think it's in beta.

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I think they're still rolling it out.

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Feature number two in the last 20 years.

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But it's basically, I think, indicative of their strategy

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to try, I think, to keep you on platform,

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and make it that space, that tab that's always open.

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And we, you know, I'm skeptical of some of the stuff.

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But I will say, we see a direct correlation

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between how often I post from my personal account

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with our demo request form on our website.

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And like, we're doing the "How did you hear about us?"

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And we're a small company, so I think, like,

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in general, the, you know, law of small numbers,

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type of a thing.

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But we repeatedly hear, and the "How did you hear

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"about a section that I found you on LinkedIn?"

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So that became like a drug, in a way,

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I'm like, I gotta post every day.

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And some days, you're like,

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I got something meaningful to say.

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Other days, you're like, I have to post.

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I have to say something here.

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And so it's really interesting just to see

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how the creator trend in the B2B context

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is happening on LinkedIn,

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and how that other job that they're being hired for,

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or LinkedIn's being hired for,

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is almost pulling them in the TikTok direction

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a little bit as well.

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- Yeah, I totally agree with that,

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but one thing that they haven't gotten right,

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in my opinion, is like, the TikTok algorithm is like so good.

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It does the perfect balance of like,

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what you care about, plus discovery.

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And what I can say, LinkedIn isn't doing good.

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And I'm sure everyone is listening

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and probably attest to this.

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Like, once you get into like a couple of the create,

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people who are posting a lot, the creators on LinkedIn,

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once you get into a couple of their funnels,

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it's like, the feed is just like,

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those people over and over and over and over again.

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And it starts to kind of feel like,

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even more monotonous than it was before that even existed,

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right?

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Like they're not, I don't think they're doing

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a really great job.

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If they want me to like, use my LinkedIn feed

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the same way I use like, my Instagram feed,

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or my TikTok feed,

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they're gonna need to do a way better job of discovery.

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And right now it's like, you know,

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I feel like, you know, it's like, you know,

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and no offense to these folks, they're great,

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but it's like, you know, see like, Dave and Morgan,

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and you know, like, it's like the same ones over

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and over and over again, they have great things to say,

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but I'm like, every time I go,

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it's like, Chris is in there, like, you know,

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just like the same people.

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And maybe that's just a matter of like,

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who I'm connected with.

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But I feel like they're missing a huge opportunity

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to help me discover new people.

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Maybe I don't know, or new creators

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to have something to say on the feed.

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So they have some work to do in my opinion

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on the algorithm.

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- I think the reason for it is it's a social graph

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where TikTok is an interest graph.

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And that I think can be the real unlock.

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Like if you were really, if you were at LinkedIn

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and really want to take this seriously,

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I think you would solve the problem that you just referenced.

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- Maybe that's the reason for the games.

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They're like, who wants pinpoint?

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Who's interested in cross-climme?

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That's what they're gonna start their interest graph on.

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We solve it. - On the on, yeah.

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I think so.

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